Генри Форд и Чарльз Линдберг

[артам]

В 40-ом году в Америке был создан комитет "Америка прежде всего" (формально самораспустился после нападения на Пирл-Харбор).

Один из ведущих лидеров этого комитета известный лётчик Чарльз Линдберг и известный всем Генри Форд награждены Гитлером орденами.(Конечно же наверное не одни они были награждены) Вопрос: что это могли быть за ордена?

Возможно это узнать ,если где-нибудь есть фото Линдберга периода 40-41 годов, при условии, конечно же, что они не подвергались ретушированию. В многисленных весенних арестах 42гг. они вроде не замечены.

так какими орденами их наградил Гитлер?

[Сергей Верещагин]

http://www.tbrnews.org/Archives/a2062.htm

 

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php...+order&start=30

 

[артам]

Спасибо Сергей.

Вторая ссылка почему-то не открывается. Но меня интересовал сам орден.

[Captain Willard]

Интересно. Форд кавалер такой награды, а IBM создавало IT разработки для гестапо. Чудны дела твои, Господи

[Сергей Верещагин]

QUOTE (артам @ Nov 6 2007, 01:11 AM)

Спасибо Сергей. Вторая ссылка почему-то не открывается. Но меня интересовал сам орден.

Извините, поправил:

 

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php...+order&start=30

 

орден - DAO

 

[tevolga]

QUOTE (Captain Willard @ Nov 6 2007, 11:52 AM)

Интересно. Форд кавалер такой награды, а IBM создавало IT разработки для гестапо. Чудны дела твои, Господи

А можно подробнее про IBM и гестапо?

[Captain Willard]

QUOTE (tevolga @ Nov 6 2007, 08:31 PM)

А можно подробнее про IBM и гестапо?

Thomas J. Watson, Sr. is considered to be the founder of International Business Machines (IBM). He was one of the richest men of his time and called the world's greatest salesman when he died. Watson was born in Campbell, New York. His formal education consisted of only a course in the Elmira School of Commerce. His first job was at age 18 as a bookkeeper in Clarence Risley's Market in Painted Post, New York. Later he sold sewing machines and musical instruments before joining the National Cash Register Company (NCR) as a salesman in Buffalo. He eventually worked his way up to general sales manager. Bent on inspiring the dispirited NCR sales force, Watson introduced the motto, "THINK," which later became a widely known symbol of IBM While at NCR, he was convicted for illegal anti-competitive sales practices (e.g. he used to have people sell deliberately faulty cash registers, either second-hand NCR or from competitors; soon after the second-hand NCR or competitors cash register failed, an NCR salesperson would arrive to sell them a brand new NCR cash register). He was sentenced, along with John H. Patterson (the owner of NCR), to one year of imprisonment. Their conviction was unpopular with the public, due to the efforts of Patterson and Watson to help those affected by the 1913 Dayton, Ohio floods. The Court of Appeals overturned the conviction on appeal in 1915, on the grounds that important defense evidence should have been admitted. Watson blamed the Republicans and became a lifelong Democrat. Watson married Jeanette M. Kittredge on April 17, 1913. The couple had two sons and two daughters

 

Watson became the president of the Computing-Tabulating-Recording Company on May 1, 1914. CTR had been founded in 1911 by Herman Hollerith, the inventor of the punch-card system for tabulating data. When Watson took over, the company had fewer than 400 employees. In 1924 he renamed the company International Business Machines. Watson built IBM into such a powerful force that the federal government filed a civil antitrust suit against them in 1952. IBM owned and leased more than 90 percent of all tabulating machines in the United States at the time

In 1937, Watson received the Order of the German Eagle with Star medal from Adolf Hitler, for the help that IBM subsidiary Dehomag and its Hollerith punchcard machines provided the Nazi regime for tabulating census data and which enabled the Gestapo to build up a national surveillance program. IBM continued to supply the Gestapo with parts until 1945, operating through their Swiss entities.. After the outbreak of World War II, Watson returned the medal, and the German government took control of the Dehomag operation.

 

The growth of IBM's German subsidiary, Dehomag, and the efforts of IBM's chairman, Thomas Watson, to maintain control of that company in the period after Hitler came to power in 1933 represented a "strategic alliance" with Nazism. In fact, these events had a quite different quality. Germany's was the only burgeoning economy in a Europe still wracked by depression, the only one in which the appetite for data-processing equipment was swelling rapidly. But the Reich also capped corporate dividends and required that they be spent in Germany. Virtually the only way to save earnings from confiscatory taxation rates was to reinvest Dehomag's returns and try to hasten the day when Germany abandoned currency controls. Unless Watson was prepared to write off his assets in Germany--in which case his operation would remain there for Hitler to exploit--he had little choice but to put the best face on happenings there, or to bite his tongue, and cultivate good relations with German leaders.

[tevolga]

Все-таки мысли о попустительстве Гитлеру со стороны IBM - фантазии.

IBM изначально была компанией которая производила оборудование для статистических подсчетов населения и обработке результатов переписи. Германия в лице МВД (в которое как мы помним входило и гестапо) просто заказала такое оборудование. Ничего особенно и специфического для нее не делали - обычная коммерция...

Да и Ватсон получил орден не как глава IBM а совсем за другое...